Are Men Threatened by Strong Women?
72I am too much woman for you
My Daily Rant 3/19/2010
Does being a strong woman automatically mean you have to emasculate your man? If your wife makes more money than you, does that diminish your "manliness"? An interesting question. One I think about a lot lately. I was raised in a family that certainly had "traditional" roles and morals and values. Dads worked, moms raised the kids, took care of the house, etc. However, the moms did work some too when times were tight and I never grew up feeling like my "place" was barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. I grew up thinking that men and women are equal, and that in a marriage, it should be a partnership, not a patriarchy. I consider myself to be a strong woman. I absolutely think marriage, children and family are of utmost importance. I do not think, however, that a woman should ever lose herself to her marriage or her family. I think it is completely within reach to be a fabulous wife, a kick ass mom, and whatever it is that makes you....you. Throughout my life, I have seen more and more women do that. The men in my generation seem to be okay with this. A lot of them were raised by baby boomers and/or women who lived through integral parts of the feminist movement. However, I think the men in the generations before me still need some convincing.
I think most men under 40 or 50 today will probably tell you that they agree its archaic to say a woman's place is in the kitchen. They will say they like their women working, contributing financially to the household, and that they are ok with helping with the household chores and the child rearing. They are enlightened. They are comfortable with their masculinity and "Strong women are hot". That's what they say. But do they really mean it?
If you haven't done so yet, take a quick minute to watch the short video clip I posted above. This is my absolute favorite scene of all time from ABC's hit show Private Practice. In the scene, Charlotte tells her boyfriend, Cooper,
"I am too much woman for you. I'm strong, I'm comfortable with being strong, and I like that I'm strong, and if that is too much woman for you, if that makes your junk feel tiny, I'm not gonna put myself in a box to make you feel like a big man."
BOOYA! Love it! I am woman, hear me roar!
By the way, my husband despises Charlotte. He thinks she's one of the hottest chics on the show, but he despises her. And before ya'll start feelin the hate for my hubby, I would like to point out that she is kind of a bitch. But....she is strong. The reason her and Cooper are in this particular fight is because she has a lot more money than Cooper does, and she just bought his way into the medical practice. Youch. That kind of hurts. Or does it? If a man were to give a gift like that to a woman, it would be considered thoughtful, generous, chivalrous. But when a woman does it for a man, is she really emasculating him?
I think there is still an internal mindset in a lot of men today to hold on to that "Men make the money, women take care of the family". Most men will not outwardly admit that, because, let's face it, a lot of women carry guns these days. But I still think it's there, lurking quietly in the background. My husband and I are ten years apart. And I can honestly say that for the most part, I never even notice the age difference. But when topics like strong women come up, it is the white elephant in the room. I honestly don't think this is because my husband (or other men his age) are jerks, they were simply raised in a different time than I was. Period.
So what about when the woman makes more money than the man? This is becoming more and more common. Statistics vary based on source, but the general consensus seems to be that 1 out of 4 or 1 out of 5 women make more money than their spouse. Is this a big deal? Many would say no. But think of this. Since the dawn of time, men have pretty much been defined as the "provider". What happens when that is no longer the case? There may be many reasons for this. Maybe the man lost his job due to downsizing and can't find a new one. Maybe he was disabled in an accident. Or maybe women are starting to dominate higher paying fields. I don't know. I do know that I work in an industry that is mostly male dominated. When I attend continuing education classes, 95% of the students are male. However, I would estimate that probably 75% of them are older gentleman nearing retirement age. When those men are gone from the field, will women take their place? Again, I don't know. I didn't do a lot of research for this hub, because I'm busy and I'm pretty much just ranting. That's how I roll.
Another thing to consider is this. What if the woman is making more money, yet still taking on 95% of the household responsibilities. Where is the equality in that? Well, if it's because her husband is injured or disabled, that's one thing. But like I said, there are many different circumstances in which a woman would make more than her significant other.
What about the men who choose to be stay at home dads? According to www.rebeldads.com, the number is somewhere between 17% and 25%. Do you think these men don't face a stigma every single day? I personally think they should be applauded. You go girl...er....I mean guy!
The main point I wanted to make with this rant is this. Do you remember the commercials where the woman would say "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful"? I think it's time we replace that slogan with "Don't hate me because I'm strong." (And by that I don't mean that she can bench 250). Strong is the new beautiful baby!
Author's Sidebar 11/5/2010
So, with last night's powerful episode dealing with the brutal attack and rape of Charlotte, who else is just blown away by KaDee Strickland's acting? I have heard some people say that the episode was far too graphic, too emotional, too.....anything. What do you think? I personally think putting this stuff in your face is what we need. I also think the terrible stigma that rape victims feel is why this horrible crime is so grossly under reported. What do you think?
In your household, who makes more money?
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Terrific hub about a very difficult subject. I agree than younger men are not at all threatened by wives who work and in fact find that desirable. However, they are also not all that enlightened about the subject of sharing responsibility for house and home and no matter what I still believe they prefer to be the major wage earner. Men are their jobs, and there is no getting away from that.
I agree women shuld be strong. And in this day and age most househols need 2 incomes.
With respect, two issues are being confused here. A strong/successful/extrovert woman does have have to be an agressive and rude woman. The one you describe above is behaving like a man with bad manners. Any man with the slightest pride will send her to where she came from and give her whatever material goods she was instrucmental in providing to the nest to take with her.
I am speaking from personal experience. My wife is a lawyer and at the same time teaches law at a university. She is 14 years younger than I and she is the only one working. (And she looks like a model by the way). However, she is extremely loving and feminine and has never ONCE spoken like the testosteron female above.
And I am not my job and never was :-) I am a combination of characteristics, good and bad with a final total of good (as my wife believes...:-) ......)
Love this hub. I find it timely (by coincidence) as the sad story of Sandra Bullock's personal life unraveling unfolds less than 2 weeks after she received the Academy Award for best actress. She seemed to think her hubby was a saint. I know nothing about the guy, but I wonder if he's one of those guys whose ego couldn't take her success and fame. Affairs are one way guys bolster their egos, or so I've heard. Your thoughts?
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"I'm busy and I'm pretty much just ranting. That's how I roll." "She was twelve years old when she told Eddie Willers that she would run the railroad when they grew up. She was fifteen when it occurred to her for the first time that women did not run railroads and that people might object. To hell with that, she thought---and never worried about it again." ~ Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
SB you have a great forum topic here. It sounds a lot like the heroine of Atlas Shrugged who nonetheless needed a strong man as well. Another quote which helps me is "To say I love you, you first have to know how to say 'I'" ~ The Fountainhead
When a woman is comfortable in her own skin, the man in her life will be comfortable with her--especially if he is at peace with who he is. I have always been comfortable with strong women and I love it when they can be sweet and sensitive as well. Isn't that what women say about men?
Bottom line? Most guys don't care if you are the CEO of a major company or a receptionist, provided that you respect and appreciate him.
I think there is an underlying message here that earning money and being strong are the same thing. Not so.
Well my opinion is yes some men are threated by stronger women only because when their friends are around they tend to get embarrassed when they are in front of their friends.
Well my opinion is yes some men are threated by stronger women only because when their friends are around they tend to get embarrassed when they are in front of their friends.
Sunflower you are my favorite ranter and thanks for responding to mine. I couldn't agree with you more about men and women being comfortable with themselves before having a relationship. Unfortunately, that doesn't happen enough. The best we can hope for in most relationships is for each one to own their feelings, wants and needs. We don't NEED our partner to validate our existence or worth, but it is ok to want affirmation and recognition from them and sometimes, on a bad day when the kids, the traffic, the system, the weather, and our relatives all seemingly conspire to beat us down, it just might be understandable to NEED to hear it. I love your rants SFB--keep em coming. =:)
A very intersting and finely written Hub. I enjoyed reading it. I would always want my woman to be all she can be. We are not competing with each other. We are on the same team. I wish I had a woman making ten billion a year—all things considered. :D
Wow! Loved it Sunflower! I must admit that I am most attracted to strong women. I was married to a strong woman and I have also falling madly in love with another one. Our marriage did not end because my former wife "emasculated me" or made my junk feel tiny. (LOL! I loved that line) We were both stubborn and had very different visions of the future that we could never compromise on. Now I will say that the gentlemen she is with today is not near as headstrong as I am. He bends on her every whim and sometimes I think that drives her crazy. She got him his job at her firm (which she is the managing partner in) and she also got him into a partnership there. Sound familiar? Well, of course, you now know what symptom showed up that caused us both to realize that our relationship as a married couple was doomed. She was having a love affair with him while we were married. I rarely tell people that. I just say that we were going different directions in life, and we were. The affair was a symptom of our true problem(s). We are better friends now than we ever were as a couple. We both came to understand each other better and peacefully departed from our marriage. The divorce still sucked and hearts were still broken (ours and the kids) but we all talked about it and decided that the only real change was two homes instead of one. We still attend our kids events together and our parenting in lock step. The woman I am in love with today is strong and I love that. We love each other and respect each other because we communicate openly about everything. She also lives 180 miles from me but we see each other often because we work in the same industry. Neither of us want to be married right now and neither of us are scared that the distance will destroy us. The distance actually creates a buffer zone that keeps us both happy with our former spouses and keeps our kids happy. Someday I am sure we will seriously entertain a geographic compromise and a marriage relationship. We choose not to assign ourselves to "old society" where people who love each MUST submit to marriage quickly and the woman simply pick up and follow the man where ever he is. That is not healthy to OUR relationship. To each their own SFB! I don't judge others for being emasculated, hey, if you are happy, that is all that matters. GREAT HUB! I feel some inspiration today! Thank you!
-Witt
We've come a long way - that's for sure.
Hi, I liked what you are writing about,I feel you are out of touch. Which I find funny because I have A feeling you are much younger that me.
Just a kew weeks ago I was talking to a young man who thought I would agree with him on his ideas on life. Far from the truth.
He was telling me how his wife's place was at home with the new baby. How he doesn't think women should be in the military. This guy was twenty years old. I guess one of the old boys got a hold of him.
Please keep up the good work, I really did enjoy reading you.
Only weeeeeeak men are threatened by strong women. Strong men know a strong woman is an asset - and visa versa. Think Mr & Mrs Obama.
But beware, some men might want to be dominated by a woman with a whip, but would never expect Madam Booya to express an opinion that was equal to or greater than his own microthoughts. Desperate men are only desperate for a desperate housewife. A strong woman should avoid the desperate ones.
Spreading love and butter,
Francine X
Strong woman are great.
Us men just don't like mean women.
Strong good.
Mean bad.
And I concur with James. Bring on the strong sugar mommas! :)
Rated "up" sunflower. I think this is my favorite of your rants. I'm a PP fan and my husband and I love debating Charlotte's character. I was actually surprised when he recently commented on how much he liked her. Then again, he likes strong women :). My view is that people are people and love and respect makes for a superior relationship. Who cares where the money comes from?
I think in a healthy marriage it is important to simply respect and appreciate the positive attributes in the other person. We all have strengths and weaknesses. Even strong women have weak parts. And weak men have strong parts. So, acceptance and love and caring, and respect are all important.
That said, we all like to be depended on for something. So, if I was only dependent, and not able to offer anything my spouse considered valuable, or if she found nothing that I offered to be valuable, that might pose a problem.
I completely agree that a marriage is an equal partnership of mutual respect and trust. I have no problem with strong women and communication, in any form, works well when both feel the same about equality...
"Don't hate me because I'm strong" I know many women who could say that. Being in the baby boomer era women have done the hard yards for sure. Often feeling offside for being strong. I have five brothers - you can imagine the testosterone. But thankfully none of my brothers begrudged my success. Parents were disappointed I didn't do the wife and kids and picket fence thing though. Great Hub.
Great hub. My culture was always dead set on women raising children and men working outside the home. With the new turn of the century, more and more women are starting to shift into working mothers and getting college degrees and men are starting to come out of their ego shells. I think it all depends on how they were raised, where they come from, and their menality on life. Well written!
SFB- Interesting Hub,I think more along the lines of De Greek. My late wife stayed at home but she was in fact a very strong woman. Which I appreciated cause when you look into the job of wife, mother, and homemaker, you see a multi-skilled professional that most husbands could not afford at the market rates. I think many of the modern women have discounted that further by failing to recognize and celebrate the professionalism of the women who work at home doing the the most important jobs on the planet, of child rearing and homemaking.
These I think are the truly strong women and I love them all.
Now having said that, I do in fact thoroughly enjoy the company of strong women if you know any that are free and want a guy that knows how to treat them give them my email address.
I know this is an older hub (last comment 11 months ago) but I happened upon it and have a word to say.
I would like to think (hope) that men are more evolved than they were in previous generations. I for one would LOVE if my wife made more money than me. I would not feel emasculated if I were a stay at home dad. And my wife is a strong woman who LOUDLY voices her opinion often.
And I wouldn't have it any other way.
Physically stronger women are not attracted to physically weaker men, nor are physically taller women attracted to physically shorter men. Every woman that talks about her ideal man has emphasized that fact. Then you see her actual choice of man - the fact is reinforced. To claim/argue otherwise is sheer ignorance. Women seek at least an equal or greater, not less. It's a fact!

























resspenser Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago
Gee, I wouldn't have voted if i had known I was the first. Hope my wife doesn't cut my allowance!
It does not bother me that she makes way more money than my sorry retired but. I like helping her spend it!